Let two long-winded, loquacious language lovers lock horns, laying out their litany of?? language learning logic, and there is no limit to the likely length of the palaver, and both linguistic pugilists are left with the lingering loathsome sense of lots left to say. We went on for almost 40 minutes and had to stop or we would still be talking. Here is the podcast. It will be in two installments. Here is part one.